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Should I invest in this company to learn forex trading?
Recently one of my friends that is equally into trading gave me a link for this company he has been practing with. Before I heard about this company I just liked picking his brain and having a back and fourth with him about what to do next etc etc. But I'm getting some bad vibes, ok so the company was just formed right? So I understand if they are a little new and don't have everything figured out. But certain things are seriously freaking me out.
YOU HAVE TO have a referral from someone you know, this is weird because they give you money the more people you refer, so if this is how they are making their money 1 sounds like an MLM, when will they stop focusing on trading and instead just focus on what their business is about? (This could be legit but I am very careful when it comes to MLM)
When speaking to the presenter, they never asked if anyone wanted to ask questions with a Q and A and just left a few of my questions unaswnered even though her presentation was all about how they answer questions and their course is awesome because its interactive…. so… that's a little sus.
They are offering trips to Mexico and things like this, which I actually like but I am also a little werieded out by, I feel like they might be using this as a crazy tactic.
So its only 20$ which isn't that much, however they don't accept things like PayPal or Venmo so they would have my actual information if I sign up for them, now is 20$ worth giving them this? What can they actually do with it… also is 20$ worth the knowledge they are going to give me? hmmm…..
What do you guys think about this? Have any of you actually been successful in not getting formal training?
I’ve been trading stocks here and there by using tips that I’ve learned off of countless hours of internet research and YouTube videos. My friend got interested in Forex trading because his friend said he made $1k in a day. I don’t believe in buying courses and I’ve told him that but he’s getting convinced on this because his friend bought a $300 course and uses some Forex program and ended up making that $1k a day. We are all 20 so $1k makes our mouths water, but my friend has absolutely no experience in any sort of trading. I know that most trading gurus make a lot, if not most, of their income from selling information so I don’t buy the idea that paying for a course will somehow have an impact on your trading abilities. I decided to join this Forex subreddit to see what any of your thoughts are. I’m pretty new to Forex as well so I’ll be sticking around just to learn. tldr; my friend wants to buy a course to learn Forex but I don’t think it’s a good idea because all the info is free on the internet. Thoughts?
Forex trading in the UK Taxable or not? Really need to know this once and for all.
Hi there, I could really use some help here. I day trade using IC Markets (I believe they are Australian), Raw Spread account. I withdraw money from IC Markets every other week, maybe GBP 1,000.00 (now I am getting the hand of it), however, overall, I am still very much down.
Do HRMC see this going into my bank account, do they then, see the total loss I have with my deposits to IC Markets and my withdrawals or only look at the withdrawals I am doing?
The big question, is this taxable, is day trading taxable in the UK, I know there are three areas you can fall into, however, how do I know what area I fall into. Additionally, when does it get to the point I need to file a tax report (if I do?).
Is there a broker out there I should be using that means I do not have to pay tax, everyone mentions spread betting, but I just contacted IC Markets and they do not do spread betting. Can you please let me know all the information and your thoughts as I beyond confused on all of this and really could do with some advice.
I have done so much research on the topic and do not have an answer yet.
ٱلسَّلَٰمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَتُ ٱللَّٰهِ وَبَرَكَٰتُهُ Before I get into the main question, I just want to clarify the reason I'm asking for individual views, is because this is supposedly a "grey area", and that means there will be a lot of difference of opinion, and of course, with these things everyone will have their own opinion on it based on their research. Now I've done a fair amount of research, asked those who do it for a living, Muslim and Non Muslims, some of those Muslims are not practicing, some of them are, some of them are even Hafiz, so I would say I've asked a rather broad spectrum. The reply I get from almost everyone is along the lines of "if you know what you're doing, it's like any other business, similarly if you jump in blind without any knowledge or experience, then it becomes no different to gambling". Another point people raise is, "if it was Haram then why do brokers offer Islamic/Shari'a compliant accounts?", and "it's not classed as gambling by law in any country, that's spread betting (which is untaxed, where in the UK it is taxable income as it's not seen as gambling)" The reason why I'm asking now personally is because I've spent a lot of time and money working on/with algorithms, tested and trialed a lot of different methods to remove this "gambling" connotation as much as possible, and feel like I've achieved a satisfactory result. However, I've recently seen videos where it mentions that since there are no tangible assets behind this, and it is just purchasing contracts for whether this currency/stock will rise or fall, it becomes Haram. So where does that leave me and the other Muslims who have been depending on this for a living for many years? Have we been earning Haram all this time? I have constantly prayed for Allah to grant me success and wealth (since we're not a well off family by any means at all) mainly so I can help my parents. Now that I'm starting to see success and progress I don't know how to handle it Islamically. is this progress and income a blessing from Allah? Or am I just thinking that it is when I have been wasting my time. For further clarification I have not been earning any interest, and have been giving regular donations to charity and the local Masjids. Jazakallah Khayr.
Pentru cei care sunt sau au fost in bransa, sau pentru ce care cunosc fenomenul, merita investit timp(la inceput pentru studiu) apoi bani? Ma refer ca part-time job Inteleg in mare conceptul de trading, nu l-am studiat in amãnunt, nu am studii in domeniu. Astept pareri fondate, povesti de succes si/sau esecuri, exemple, cifre, etc. O seara faina!
Hi Everyone, i’m not sure if this is the right thread (i’m new to this thread) for this, if it isn’t then i apologise (it’d be appreciated if you could let me know threads that are more suitable for this issue!) I’m in need of some help and this thread seems the most suitable to go for. i’ve got a question for y’all. Personally i don’t know much about trading and how it works. A few weeks ago this random user added me on a social media platform, essentially we’ve talked on and off for the past few weeks however this user keeps coercing me to invest in the same market as they are investing in. I’m pretty sure that it might be a scammer. The user often sends photos of their “trading” earnings, showing earnings of around 200,000 USD per day (investing around 500,000, so the return 40%). Like to someone who knows nothing about trading that sounds absolutely insane and impossible. Anyone got any comments on this? Is it really possible to earn that much in a timeframe as short as one day? Any help is appreciated 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Anyone doing little forex trading? I’m curious how much of the not allowed is allowed.
I see in terms it’s not allowed. But curious if I can bounce few K back and forth over the week or month without setting off any alarms. Anyone doing it? How much/often? I see Revoult gives a near perfect rate match while most forex brokers have 0.4 spread on the RUB which is nearly my entire profit interest on a weekly move.
I’m 19, a college student and interested in starting Forex trading.
I recently got interested in making my money grow more especially during this pandemic. I have always wanted to start forex trading ever since I started investing (mutual funds) at 15 years old but I knew the risks were too high for me at that age. Could you guys recommend me free tutorials maybe on youtube (if they’re recommendable) or some free resources found online? And maybe tips and tricks of your own? Also if possible, I’d like to know some sites where I can trade for a minimal starting price since I’m only a student. Thank you very much and happy trading! :)
Does forex trading make sense for someone with a computer science background as a way to make money on the side?
I'd like to make some money on the side. I have a computer science background. I read the Wiki, but it mostly contained educational resources, whereas I'm wondering "does it make sense to trade forex in my position". I see three possible benefits of trading forex:
I trade forex and get some money on the side
I trade forex, get good at it, then program a bot that trades forex (not sure how profitable this is)
I trade forex and pick up some skills that are useful if I'm investing later on in my life (in tech companies etc.)
I'm trying to weigh trading forex against doing freelance programming work on the side as a way to earn extra money. Hence I arrive at my question: Does forex trading make sense for someone with a computer science background as a way to make money on the side? Is it worth it, given that I want to invest in companies later on in my life? Or should I stick to programming freelancing?
I’ve tried Robinhood Instant and I’ve made about $40 of 500-600 within a 1-2 days, but then lost it because of that pesky PDT rule where I am not allowed to sell more than 3 times in a week. Then I considered turning it into a cash acct to get around it, but then there’s that pesky 2 day wait after selling a stock. So now I want to get into day trading Forex. Does Forex have pesky rules like this too?
Should I trust EACONOMY? Is it a scam? (Forex Trading)
I have been trying to research this company for the past 2 days because I have heard bout my friend getting into it. He met up with some friends who showed him screenshots of them making 11k from 300$ in a matter of 5 hours. I don't think I am dumb enough to believe some bot like this would be making this much profit in a matter of hours or else it would be millions of dollars no ??? Has anyone ever tried it before?
Hi, this is my first reddit post and I hope you can help me. I have a cousin that is being lured by her HS best friend inyo joining FOREX trading. Being an ate, I want to make sure she is safe. I read in some articles kasi that FOREX trading isn't allowed in PH(?) bc of the SEC thinggy dated 2018 pa. details:
at first she was just asked to be a "member" paying 1,000php only and she just needs to wait. I advised her to say no. I don't feel confident with the "antay ka lang tas papasok pera" schemes lol it just don't sit well with me hehe
after 1-2 wks, her friend said verbatim "change of plans, you can now be an account holder yourself"
3.this friend is posting on his IG stories and Twitter about him gaining 25,000php. even posted a photo of something that you'd usually see in forex trading naman(?) question: is forex trading legal in PH? IF YES, are there companies/groups that handles this and with the abovementioned deets, does it sound legit? ALSO, I asked already what "company" handles his trading, but the only answer i got was "forex" i searched already in the internet but nothing came up except,... well definition of forex :(
Why do people say forex trading is not profitable and you'll loose your money?
Like if you jump in directly obviously you'll end up blowing your account, you'll loose hell lot of money But if you properly study, practice,make a strategy you will follow Have a risk management plan,learn the market and basically just put it effort in it,why won't you be profitable You can't just jump into anything and expect to become a millionaire,you need to work for it Example becoming a doctor, No one can just go into an operation room and start operating,you need years of practice and experience Same goes with forex,but the reward might just be a little juicier Soo don't be disheartened by the 90% loose money And keep realistic expectations,you can't expect to earn 90k a day without putting in the effort So guys wish you all the best and just work hard and practice man Form a proper plan and just stick to it
Hello everyone, I'm writing this so the ones who are just starting can get an idea of what they are getting into and also would appreciate any advice from more experienced traders. I'm going to be honest. I got into forex trading seduced by the idea of making easy money from my computer. I started following some "traders" on instagram, subscribed to a signal service to "earn while learn". The first 3 weeks I actually obeyed to the risk parameters of that signal group (1% per trade) , but that on my 700€ account didn't even earn me enough to pay the monthly fee of the signals. So I moved on the next chapter, I changed signal provider and, most dangerously, I opened a high leverege account. If you are experienced you know what comes next, I tasted the sweet feeling of big profits in short amount of time, I gambled the whole account to 10x few times to then blow it and repeat the vicious cycle. The cycle continued until early march, then reality set in my mind and realized that I was just gambling. I felt very bad, like trapped in a hole and started thinking that I could never make it in this industry. In desperation I decided to give it a last chance, I found a cheap course/mentorship, I signed up and actually learned a very good strategy, I started practicing and backtesting on demo account, started implementing risk management, got into live trading again and the next 4 months went really good. But then one month ago I had a losing streak, every trade I took went straight into SL, under that pressure my bad habits came back, I over-traded, over-levereged and over-risked. This time I felt even worse than in march because this time I finally though I got it figured out. I thought trading is nonsense, etc... After some weeks off the charts I came back, I knew one thing, that the strategy works, but also that I can often get subjective on my analysis. That led me to the conclusion that I have to automate the strategy, and that's where I am now. Still far from where I want to be, but also from where I have begun. I can't imagine giving up now.
Someone posted on here a few days ago asking about forex and forex trading in Kenya, I have gone through the responses and clearly, most people don’t have an idea. It is 3am in the morning and am in a good mood so let me make this post. This will be a comprehensive and lengthy post so grab a pen and paper and sit down. We’ll be here a while. FIRST OF ALL, who am I..? I am a forex trader, in Nairobi, Kenya..i have been actively involved in forex since I found out about it in Feb 2016 when I somehow ended up in a wealth creation seminar (lol) in pride inn Westlands, the one close to Mpaka Rd. Luckily for me, it was not one of those AIM global meetings or I’d be on Facebook selling God knows what those guys sell. I did not take it seriously till August of the same year and I have been active ever since. I don’t teach, mentor or sell a course or signals, I trade my own money. I am also posting from a throwaway account because I don’t want KRA on my ass. What the fuck is forex and forex trading. In simple plain English, forex is like the stock market but for currencies. Stock Market = Shares, forex = currencies. If you want more in-depth explanation, google is your friend. These currencies are pegged on specific countries, united states- dollar, UK- pound, euro zone- euro, Switzerland- Swiss franc, Kenya- Kenya shilling.. you get the point. Now, there are specific events and happenings between these economies that affect the movement and values of the currencies, driving their value (purchasing power up and down). Forex trading exploits these movements to make money. When the value is going up, we buy and vice versa (down –sell) Is forex trading illegal in Kenya? Is it a scam? Illegal, no. scam, no. All the banks in the world do it (KCB made about 4 billion from trading forex in 2019) Have there been scams involving forex in Kenya? Yes. Here is one that happened recently. This one is the most infamous one yet. Best believe that this is not the end of these type of scams because the stupidity, greed and gullibility of human beings is unfathomable. However, by the end of this post, I hope you won’t fall for such silliness. What next how do I make it work..? Am glad you asked. Generally, there are two ways to go about it. One, you teach yourself. This is the equivalent of stealing our dad’s car and hoping that the pedal you hit is the brake and not the accelerator. It is the route I took, it is the most rewarding and a huge ego boost when you finally make it on your own. Typically, this involves scouring the internet for hours upon hours going down rabbit holes, thinking you have made it telling all your friends how you will be a millionaire then losing all your money. Some people do not have the stomach for that. The second route is more practical, structured and smarter. First Learn the basics. There is a free online forex course at www.babypips.com/learn/forex this is merely an introductory course. Basically it is learning the parts of a car before they let you inside the car. Second, start building your strategy. By the time you are done with the babypips, you will have a feel of what the forex market is, what interests you, etc. Tip..Babypips has a lot of garbage. It is good for introductory purposes but not good for much else, pick whatever stick to you or jumps at you the first time. Nonsense like indicators should be ignored. The next step is now the most important. Developing the skill and building your strategy. As a beginner, you want to exhaust your naivety before jumping into the more advanced stuff. Eg can you identify a trend, what is a pair, what is position sizing, what is metatrader 4 and how to operate it, what news is good for a currency, when can I trade, what are the different trading sessions, what is technical analysis, what is market sentiment, what are bullish conditions what is emotion management, how does my psychology affect my trading (more on this later) an I a swing, scalper or day trader etc Mentors and forex courses.. you have probably seen people advertising how they can teach and mentor you on how to trade forex and charging so much money for it. Somehow it seems that these people are focused on the teaching than the trading. Weird, right..? Truth is trading is hard, teaching not quite. A common saying in the industry is “Those who can’t trade, teach” you want to avoid all these gurus on Facebook and Instagram, some are legit but most are not. Sifting the wheat from the chaff is hard but I did that for you. The info is available online on YouTube, telegram channels etc. am not saying not to spend money on a course, if you find a mentor whose style resonates with you and the course is reasonably priced, please, go ahead and buy..it will cut your learning curve in half. People are different. What worked for me might not work for you. Here are some nice YouTube channels to watch. These guys are legit..
After a short period of time, you will be able to sniff out bs teachers with relative ease. You will also discover some of your own and expand the list. Two tips, start with the oldest videos first and whichever of these resonates with you, stick with till the wheels fall off. How long will it take until things start making sense Give yourself time to grow and learn. This is all new to you and you are allowed to make mistakes, to fail and discover yourself. Realistically, depending on the effort you put in, you will not start seeing results until after 6 months. Could take longeshorter so there is no guarantee. Social media, Mentality, Psychology and Books Online, forex trading might not have the best reputation online because it takes hard work and scammers and gurus give it a bad name. However, try to not get sucked into the Instagram trader lifestyle as it is nowhere close to what the reality is. You will not make millions tomorrow or the day after, you might never even make it in this market. But that is the reality of life. Nothing is promised, nothing is guaranteed. Your mentality, beliefs and ego will be challenged in this market. You will learn things that will make you blood boil, you will ask yourself daily, how is this possible, why don’t they teach this in school..bla bla bla..it will be hard but growth is painful, if it wasn’t we’d all be billionaires. Take a break, take a walk, drink a glass of whatever you like or roll one..detox. Chill with your girl (or man) Gradually you will develop mental toughness that will set you up for life. Personally, I sorta ditched religion and picked up stoicism. Whatever works for you. Psychology, this is unfortunately one of the most neglected aspects of your personal development in this journey. Do you believe in yourself? Can you stand by your convictions when everyone is against you? Can you get up every day uncertain of the future? There will be moments where you will question yourself, am I even doing the right thing? the right way? It is normal and essential for your growth. People who played competitive sports have a natural advantage here. Remember the game is first won in your head then on the pitch. Books: ironically, books that helped me the most were the mindset books, Think and grow rich, trading for a living, 4 hour work week, the monk who sold his Ferrari..just google mindset and psychology books, most trading books are garbage. Watch and listen to people who have made it in the investing business. Ray Dalio, warren, Bill Ackman and Carl Icahn. This is turning out to be lengthier than I anticipated so I’ll try to be brief for the remaining parts. Brokers You will need to open up an account with a broker. Get a broker who is regulated. Australian ones (IC Market and Pepperstone) are both legit, reliable and regulated. Do your research. I’d avoid local ones because I’ve heard stories of wide spreads and liquidity problems. International brokers have never failed me. There are plenty brokers, there is no one size fits all recommendation. If it ain’t broke..don’t fix it. Money transfer. All brokers accept wire transfers, you might need to call your bank to authorize that, avoid Equity bank. Stanchart and Stanbic are alright. Large withdrawals $10k+ you will have to call them prior. Get Skrill and Neteller if you don’t like banks like me, set up a Bitcoin wallet for faster withdrawals, (Payoneer and Paypal are accepted by some brokers, just check with them.) How much money can I make..? I hate this question because people have perceived ceilings of income in their minds, eg 1 million ksh is too much to make per month or 10,000ksh is too little. Instead, work backwards. What % return did I make this month/ on this trade. Safaricom made 19.5% last year, if you make 20% you have outperformed them. If you reach of consistency where you can make x% per month on whatever money you have, then there are no limits to how much you can make. How much money do I need to start with..? Zero. You have all the resources above, go forth. There are brokers who provide free bonuses and withdraw-able profits. However, to make a fulltime income you will need some serious cash. Generally, 50,000 kes. You can start lower or higher but if you need say 20k to live comfortably and that is a 10% return per month, then you can do the math on how big your account should be. Of course things like compound interest come into play but that is dependent on your skill level. I have seen people do spectacular things with very little funds. Taxes..? Talk to a lawyer or an accountant. I am neither. Family? Friends? Unfortunately, people will not understand why you spend hundreds of hours watching strangers on the internet so it is best to keep it from them. Eventually you will make it work and they will come to your corner talking about how they always knew you’d make it. The journey will be lonely, make some trading buddies along the way. You’d be surprised at how easy it is when people are united by their circumstances (and stupidity) I have guys who are my bros from South Africa and Lebanon who I have never met but we came up together and are now homies. Join forums, ask questions and grow. That is the only way to learn. Ideally, a group of 5-10 friends committed to learning and growth is the best model. Pushing each other to grow and discovering together. Forex is real and you can do amazing things with it. It is not a get rich quick scheme. If you want a quick guaranteed income, get a job. And now it is 5am, fuck. This is oversimplified and leaves out many many aspects. Happy to answer any questions.
I think that my friend is in a forex trading pyramid scheme "Walking ATMS"
My friend asked me if I wanted to join a group of people meeting and recruiting people for what seems like a pyramid scheme. They have videos on youtube (https://youtu.be/x5w02T_3JiI) he doesn't seem to have paid in yet but I'm worried that more people will be affected by this anyone else seen anything similar?
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